{"id":104,"date":"2004-04-13T12:29:35","date_gmt":"2004-04-13T12:29:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.transycan.net\/blogm\/?p=104"},"modified":"2004-04-13T12:29:35","modified_gmt":"2004-04-13T12:29:35","slug":"r-r","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/istvanhorvath.com\/huma\/r-r\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00dar \u00edr?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Nem ez volt a sz\u00e1nd\u00e9k, de ilyenre sikeredett a mai web-b\u00f6ng\u00e9sz\u00e9s:<br \/>\nMivel mindig \u00e9rkezik \u00e9rtes\u00edt\u00e9s a postal\u00e1d\u00e1mba, ha valaki itt hozz\u00e1sz\u00f3l a bejegyz\u00e9sekhez, az angol nyelv\u0171 h\u00edroldalak helyett \u00f6nmagammal kezdtem a barangol\u00e1st, j\u00f6ttem megn\u00e9zni, mit \u00edrt &#8222;P\u00e9ter&#8221; az el\u0151z\u0151 sz\u00f6vegemhez. Ha m\u00e1r itt voltam, Andrassewre kattintottam a f\u0151oldalr\u00f3l (n\u00e9h\u00e1ny napja nem n\u00e9ztem blogokat), \u00e9s nagy szomor\u00fas\u00e1ggal olvastam Milos betegs\u00e9g\u00e9r\u0151l&#8230; \u00c9rdekes, kedves \u00e9lm\u00e9ny volt decemberben szem\u00e9lyesen is megismerni Milost, miut\u00e1n annyi mindent tudtam r\u00f3la a napl\u00f3b\u00f3l. Akkoriban nem \u00edrtam ide semmit, most mondom teh\u00e1t: kellemes, j\u00f3 napot t\u00f6lt\u00f6ttem Iv\u00e1n\u00e9kn\u00e1l. K\u00e1r, hogy ritk\u00e1n vannak ilyen napjaink! &#8211; Rem\u00e9lem, Milos hamarosan teljesen j\u00f3l lesz!<\/p>\n<p>Azt\u00e1n onnan BDK lapj\u00e1ra csalogatott a link &#8211; \u00e9s ezzel m\u00e1r bele is ker\u00fcltem abba az eszement vil\u00e1gba, amit\u0151l sose lehet el\u00e9g messzire elmenni.<br \/>\n<\/p>\n<p>Azt hiszem, pontatlanul fogalmazok itt. Ti. nem BDK weblapja &#8222;eszement&#8221;, hanem a vil\u00e1g, amit lereag\u00e1l. Megn\u00e9ztem pl. Pomp\u00e9ry remek kis \u00edr\u00e1s\u00e1t (<i>Kedvetlen \u00e9rtetlens\u00e9gem<\/i>) &#8211; nagyon tetszett! -, majd a lapgazda hadakoz\u00e1s\u00e1t a helyi lapban bizonyos NZM nev\u0171 emberrel (g\u0151z\u00f6m sincs, ki lehet, de nem is igaz\u00e1n \u00e9rdekel!) stb. Mindezek ama bizonyos \u00edr\u00f3sz\u00f6vets\u00e9gi botr\u00e1ny k\u00f6r\u00fcl forognak. \u00c9s l\u00e1ttam K\u00e1ntor Lajos \u00edr\u00e1s\u00e1t is, tal\u00e1n mert k\u00edv\u00e1ncsi voltam, sz\u00fcl\u0151v\u00e1rosomb\u00f3l, Kolozsv\u00e1rr\u00f3l, hogyan l\u00e1tszik mindez. B\u00e1r ak\u00e1r onnan is sokf\u00e9lek\u00e9ppen l\u00e1tszik, l\u00e1tsz\u00f3dhat &#8211; l\u00e1sd Sziju \u00edr\u00e1sait a K\u00e1f\u00e9ban&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Sz\u00f3val ilyenkor \u00f6r\u00fcl\u00f6k, hogy Winnipegben \u00e9lek.  De \u00e9pp \u00edgy \u00f6r\u00fcln\u00e9k b\u00e1rmi m\u00e1s helynek is, ami el\u00e9g messzi van mindett\u0151l! Bevallom azt is, bdk harcos, heves indulata t\u0151lem kiss\u00e9 idegen. Ez nem min\u0151s\u00edt\u00e9s, azt hiszem, ink\u00e1bb v\u00e9rm\u00e9rs\u00e9klet k\u00e9rd\u00e9se, vagy tal\u00e1n a k\u00edv\u00fcl\u00e1ll\u00e1s okozza, hogy ink\u00e1bb Pomp\u00e9ryra b\u00f3logattam r\u00e1 magamban. <\/p>\n<p>Valaha \u00e9n is tagja voltam ennek az \u00cdr\u00f3sz\u00f6vets\u00e9gnek. &#8217;88-as Magyarorsz\u00e1gra teleped\u00e9semkor G\u00f6ncz \u00c1rp\u00e1d \u00f6szt\u00f6k\u00e9l\u00e9s\u00e9re (\u00e9s azt hiszem, aj\u00e1nl\u00e1s\u00e1val) lettem tagja a m\u0171ford\u00edt\u00f3i szakoszt\u00e1lynak, mint &#8222;konzseni\u00e1lis&#8221; Nabokov-ford\u00edt\u00f3. Ezt egy kritik\u00e1b\u00f3l id\u00e9zem \ud83d\ude42 &#8211; \u00e9s nem, nem ismertem, nem ismerem a szerz\u0151j\u00e9t&#8230; N.B. \u00c1rpi b\u00e1csi akkoriban m\u00e9g se \u00edr\u00f3sz\u00f6vets\u00e9gi eln\u00f6k, pl\u00e1n\u00e9 k\u00f6zt\u00e1rsas\u00e1gi eln\u00f6k nem volt, csup\u00e1n a <i>tiltott<\/i> \u00e9s a <i>megt\u0171rt<\/i> mezsgy\u00e9j\u00e9n \u00e9l\u0151 \u00edr\u00f3 \u00e9s m\u0171ford\u00edt\u00f3. \u00c9vekig tagja is maradtam a sz\u00f6vets\u00e9gnek, m\u00edg azt\u00e1n valamikor a kilencvenes \u00e9vek k\u00f6zep\u00e9n, ahogy m\u00e1s foglalkoz\u00e1sok fel\u00e9 sodort az \u00e9let, egyszer\u0171en kimaradtam bel\u0151le. Gondolom, tags\u00e1gi d\u00edj nem-fizet\u00e9s ok\u00e1n t\u00f6r\u00f6ltek. V\u00e9lhet\u0151en \u00edgy sz\u0171nt meg a tags\u00e1gom az \u00fajs\u00e1g\u00edr\u00f3 sz\u00f6vets\u00e9gben is. De h\u00e1t akkoriban Boszni\u00e1ban, majd Dageszt\u00e1nban \u00e9s Csecsenf\u00f6ld\u00f6n nem nagyon jutott id\u0151m ilyesmikkel t\u00f6r\u0151dni. B\u00e1r az is hozz\u00e1tartozik az igazs\u00e1ghoz, hogy miut\u00e1n 1993-ban abbahagytam (na j\u00f3, abba hagyatt\u00e1k velem) az \u00fajs\u00e1g\u00edr\u00e1st, azt mondtam: <i>ny\u00e9m\u00e1 kultur\u00e1<\/i> &#8211; t\u00f6bbet \u00e9n nem \u00edrok, nem olvasok, magasr\u00f3l leszarom az eg\u00e9szet (pardon, de enn\u00e9l jobb sz\u00f3 nincs ide). \u00c9s l\u0151n &#8211; mindaddig, m\u00edg az internet cs\u00e1b\u00edt\u00e1sa el nem t\u00e9r\u00edtett ett\u0151l, de h\u00e1t ez az\u00e9rt teljesen m\u00e1s! Vagy legal\u00e1bb is evvel szoktam mentegetni magam, ha erre egy\u00e1ltal\u00e1n sz\u00fcks\u00e9g van&#8230;<br \/>\n(Nincs.)<\/p>\n<p>Hogy mi\u00e9rt is kattogtam a BDK linkre, arra, azt hiszem, a legjobb v\u00e1lasz az, hogy (m\u00e9g) mindig elh\u0171l\u00f6k, valah\u00e1nyszor r\u00e1 kell d\u00f6bbennem, hogy ott \u00e9s itt mennyire m\u00e1st \u00e9rt\u00fcnk ugyanazokon a szavakon. Az Andrassew oldal\u00e1n lev\u0151 &#8222;rekl\u00e1msz\u00f6veg&#8221; szerint bdk ki\u00e1br\u00e1ndult a <i>jobboldalb\u00f3l, konzervativizmusb\u00f3l<\/i>. \u00c9n meg itt Kanad\u00e1ban jobboldali \u00e9s konzervat\u00edv lettem &#8211; \u00e9s k\u00f6zben teljesen vil\u00e1gos, hogy m\u00e9g v\u00e9letlen\u00fcl sem ugyanarr\u00f3l besz\u00e9l\u00fcnk. Igaz, \u00e9n is mindig kihangs\u00falyozom, hogy kanadai viszonylatban \u00e9rtend\u0151, amit mondok. Persze, ez sem ilyen egyszer\u0171, ugyanis sok b\u0151sz emigr\u00e1nst ismerek itt, akik &#8222;hazafel\u00e9&#8221; szeretnek aff\u00e9le konzervat\u00edv, jobbos, nemzeti sz\u00ednben tetszelegni, de legal\u00e1bb is &#8222;antiszoclib&#8221; \u00e1ll\u00e1spontr\u00f3l h\u0151b\u00f6r\u00f6gni, mik\u00f6zben itt, azaz Kanad\u00e1ban, ahol \u00e9lnek, sunyin r\u00e1szavaznak az NDP-re (New Democratic Party = a szalonkommunist\u00e1k) vagy a Liber\u00e1lis P\u00e1rt erk\u00f6lcstelen klient\u00far\u00e1j\u00e1nak uralm\u00e1ra csup\u00e1n az\u00e9rt, mert ezekt\u0151l rem\u00e9lhetnek g\u00e1tl\u00e1stalan szoci\u00e1lis k\u00f6ltekez\u00e9st  &#8211; \u00e9rtsd: seg\u00e9lyt, ell\u00e1t\u00e1st, paternalista \u00e1llamot. Na, ezek is t\u00e1vol \u00e1llnak t\u0151lem&#8230;<br \/>\n(Am\u00fagy a Liber\u00e1lis P\u00e1rt neve nem jelent az \u00e9gvil\u00e1gon semmit. Hatalmas gy\u0171jt\u0151p\u00e1rt, melybe harmadik ciklus \u00f3ta tart\u00f3 hatalma ok\u00e1n bel\u00e9pnek szocdemek, posztmodernista nihilist\u00e1k, a politically correct harcosai&#8230; \u00e9s mindenki, aki a h\u00fasosfaz\u00e9khoz akar ker\u00fclni. Egyszer t\u00e1n kellene err\u0151l is \u00e9rtekez\u00e9st \u00edrni &#8211; tanuls\u00e1gk\u00e9ppen.)<\/p>\n<p>Hanem volt egyetlen mondatr\u00e9szlet a sok olvasm\u00e1nyban, ami az\u00f3ta is az agyamban zsong: <b>&#8222;aki \u00e1ltal\u00e1ban tagadja az irodalom &#8211; s \u00edgy az \u00edr\u00f3k &#8211; t\u00e1rsadalmi felel\u0151ss\u00e9g\u00e9t, k\u00fcldet\u00e9s\u00e9t&#8221;<\/b> &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br \/>\na sz\u00f6veg\u00f6sszef\u00fcgg\u00e9s l\u00e9nyegtelen, mert a l\u00e9nyeg az, hogy ezek szerint van aki a &#8222;k\u00fcldet\u00e9st&#8221; tagadja, \u00e9s van aki nem, s ennek f\u00fcggv\u00e9ny\u00e9ben ki j\u00f3ember, ki nem. Na, itt meg\u00e1ll az eszem! Mindig mondom, az \u00edr\u00f3k \u00edrjanak, ne v\u00e1teszkedjenek! Sok egy\u00e9b mellett ejsze emiatt is szeretem Nabokovot: \u00f6r\u00f6kk\u00e9 ideges lett, ha b\u00e1rmif\u00e9le t\u00e1rsadalmi &#8222;mondanival\u00f3t&#8221; akartak belemagyar\u00e1zni a m\u0171veibe, \u00e9s tagadta, hogy az irodalomnak ilyesmi lenne a c\u00e9lja, \u00e9rtelme. Tov\u00e1bb\u00e1 gy\u00f6ny\u00f6r\u0171 az <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nabokov.spb.ru\/\">itt<\/a> olvashat\u00f3 mondata&#8230; (Aki nem tud oroszul, annak j\u00f3p\u00e9nz\u00e9rt elk\u00fcld\u00f6m a ford\u00edt\u00e1st \ud83d\ude42 <\/p>\n<p>Ha valaki nem \u00e9rten\u00e9: nem az\u00e9rt szeretem Winnipeget, merthogy van itt m\u00ednusz negyvenfokos t\u00e9l, hanem mert errefel\u00e9 az \u00edr\u00f3knak nincs k\u00fcldet\u00e9se. K\u00fcldet\u00e9studata. Amint m\u00e1r m\u00e1skor is \u00edrtam &#8211; errefel\u00e9 ez (is) egy foglalkoz\u00e1s. Hogy ne mondjam, szakma. Kedves felebar\u00e1taim, enn\u00e9l nagyobb j\u00f3k\u00edv\u00e1ns\u00e1got nem tudok mondani nektek: legyen v\u00e9gre n\u00e1latokfel\u00e9 is szakma az \u00edr\u00e1s!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nem ez volt a sz\u00e1nd\u00e9k, de ilyenre sikeredett a mai web-b\u00f6ng\u00e9sz\u00e9s: Mivel mindig \u00e9rkezik \u00e9rtes\u00edt\u00e9s a postal\u00e1d\u00e1mba, ha valaki itt hozz\u00e1sz\u00f3l a bejegyz\u00e9sekhez, az angol nyelv\u0171 h\u00edroldalak helyett \u00f6nmagammal kezdtem a barangol\u00e1st, j\u00f6ttem megn\u00e9zni, mit \u00edrt &#8222;P\u00e9ter&#8221; az el\u0151z\u0151 sz\u00f6vegemhez. 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