{"id":95,"date":"2003-10-23T10:53:34","date_gmt":"2003-10-23T10:53:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.transycan.net\/blogm\/?p=95"},"modified":"2016-01-29T18:37:03","modified_gmt":"2016-01-29T18:37:03","slug":"jnos-a-jhr-s-a-fordts-tfordtsa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/istvanhorvath.com\/huma\/jnos-a-jhr-s-a-fordts-tfordtsa\/","title":{"rendered":"J\u00e1nos, a j\u00f3h\u00edr \u00e9s a ford\u00edt\u00e1s (\u00e1t)ford\u00edt\u00e1sa"},"content":{"rendered":"

\n\u00c9pp most, ezekben a napokban mutatj\u00e1k be a J\u00e1nos evang\u00e9liuma (The Gospel of John)<\/b> c. mozit. Nagyon sz\u00e9p, nagyon profi weboldala van: http:\/\/www.gospelofjohnthefilm.com\/<\/a>
\nSzeretem az ilyen eleg\u00e1ns oldalakat…<\/p>\n

A film azt hirdeti mag\u00e1r\u00f3l, hogy „vizu\u00e1lis biblia” r\u00e9szek\u00e9nt sz\u00f3r\u00f3l-sz\u00f3ra<\/b> \u00e1t\u00fclteti k\u00e9pbe (k\u00e9pi nyelvre ford\u00edtja?) az \u00fan. Good News Bible<\/i> (GNB) verzi\u00f3t. Err\u0151l annyit kell tudni, hogy a sz\u00e1mtalan angol nyelv\u0171 ford\u00edt\u00e1s k\u00f6z\u00f6tt azzal v\u00e1lt h\u00edress\u00e9 (m\u00e1sok szerint: h\u00edrhedtt\u00e9), hogy szak\u00edt a hagyom\u00e1nyos ford\u00edt\u00e1selm\u00e9letekkel, \u00e9s nem a szavakat, hanem a jelent\u00e9st<\/b> adja vissza – mai, h\u00e9tk\u00f6znapi angol nyelven.
\n<\/p>\n[R\u00f6vid z\u00e1r\u00f3jel: alapvet\u0151en k\u00e9t elm\u00e9let hadakozik egym\u00e1ssal, amikor a Biblia-ford\u00edt\u00e1sokr\u00f3l esik sz\u00f3, a form\u00e1lis ekvivalencia<\/i> \u00e9s a dimanikus ekvivalencia<\/i>. Ez ut\u00f3bbi eredm\u00e9nye a GNB, \u00e9s a te\u00f3ria egyik megalapoz\u00f3ja Eugene A. Nida<\/b> nyelv\u00e9sz \u00e9s kult\u00farantropol\u00f3gus volt, m\u00e9g a negyvenes \u00e9vek k\u00f6zep\u00e9n. Nid\u00e1r\u00f3l sokszor hallottam m\u00e9g misszion\u00e1r-tanonc koromban. Tanultunk is t\u0151le, r\u00f3la. NB: a mi magyar nyelv\u0171 bibli\u00e1ink ink\u00e1bb a form\u00e1lis ekvivalencia szab\u00e1lyait k\u00f6vetik.
\nEugene Nida neve a weblapon is szerepel<\/a>.]\n

\nA film beharangoz\u00f3ja az\u00e9rt elgondolkodtat\u00f3, mert igen \u00e9rdekes \u00e9s bonyolult nyelv\u00e9szeti, ford\u00edt\u00e1s- \u00e9s kommunik\u00e1ci\u00f3elm\u00e9leti, de t\u00e1gabban m\u00e9g teol\u00f3giai k\u00e9rd\u00e9seket is vet fel. El\u0151sz\u00f6r is adva van egy majdnem k\u00e9tezer \u00e9ves (koin\u00e9) g\u00f6r\u00f6g nyelv\u0171 sz\u00f6veg, ami j\u00f3val k\u00e9s\u0151bbi m\u00e1solatokban maradt r\u00e1nk, de a kereszt\u00e9ny egyh\u00e1zak kinyilatkoztat\u00e1sk\u00e9nt tekintik. Azt\u00e1n e sz\u00f6veget – minden eddigi hagyom\u00e1nyt\u00f3l elt\u00e9r\u0151en – leford\u00edtott\u00e1k k\u00f6znapi angolra a 60-70-es \u00e9vekben, Nida dinamikus ekvivalencia elm\u00e9let\u00e9t a gyakorlatba \u00fcltetve, \u00e9s most j\u00f6n ez a film, amelyik azt mondja „THE GOSPEL OF JOHN is an ambitious motion picture that has been adapted for the screen on a word for word basis from the American Bible Society’s Good News Bible”<\/i> – azaz: sz\u00f3r\u00f3l-sz\u00f3ra a filmv\u00e1szonra adapt\u00e1lva. Ha j\u00f3l \u00e9rtem, akkor a k\u00e9pi ford\u00edt\u00e1s nem a Nida-f\u00e9le elm\u00e9letet, hanem a form\u00e1lis ekvivalencia szab\u00e1lyait k\u00f6veti. De persze, a m\u00e1s k\u00f6zegbe val\u00f3 \u00e1t\u00fcltet\u00e9s – mint m\u00e1r annyiszor – \u00fajabb \u00e9s \u00fajabb (m\u0171fajelm\u00e9leti, \u00e1ltal\u00e1nosabb eszt\u00e9tikai, valamint ism\u00e9t: kommunik\u00e1ci\u00f3s) k\u00e9rd\u00e9sek sokas\u00e1g\u00e1t id\u00e9zi fel. Sz\u00f3val, j\u00f3l meg van bonyol\u00edtva…<\/p>\n

Az m\u00e1r csak apr\u00f3 kaj\u00e1nkod\u00e1s, hogy k\u00edv\u00e1ncsian v\u00e1rom, mi t\u00f6rt\u00e9nik majd, ha magyarul is forgalmaz\u00e1sba ker\u00fcl. Ti. n\u00e9h\u00e1ny Index-f\u00f3rum tan\u00fas\u00e1ga szerint a filmford\u00edt\u00f3k (feliratford\u00edt\u00f3k) enn\u00e9l egyszer\u0171bb feladatokba is belebuknak:
\nLeiter Jakab, a filmford\u00edt\u00f3<\/a>
\nFerd\u00edt\u00e9s, avagy J\u00e1kob szekszt\u00e1nsa<\/a>
\nIdi\u00f3ta filmc\u00edm ford\u00edt\u00e1sok<\/a><\/p>\n

Nos, ha volt valaha is ford\u00edt\u00f3i kih\u00edv\u00e1s (challenge – mondj\u00e1k errefel\u00e9), mi l\u00e1zba hozna, akkor e film magyar\u00edt\u00e1sa lenne az…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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